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Gibson Les Paul vintage guitar, owned by John Miles

Serial number: 9 3182
Weight: 8.4.

This vintage Gibson Les Paul was likely made around 1957/1959, and in 1975 was bought by a very young John Miles from the Orange Music shop in Denmark Street, London. He purchased it with the money he received from his hit record, Highfly.

John has been the sole owner of this guitar since, and has used it for recording in studios, at live shows and on albums.
 
Through the years this guitar has been serviced -- for example, John had the machine heads changed for Grover machine heads and has replaced the wires. The pickups were on the guitar when John bought it. This is truly a player's guitar, to be used and not locked up in a safe.

You can see John playing this guitar with Joe Cocker on YouTube.

Joe Cocker - Now That The Magic Has Gone (LIVE in Dortmund) HD


Comes with a letter from John Miles stating that he owned and played the guitar since he purchased it in 1975. There has been no other owner since



This cover is from 1976, the very same guitar! 


youtu.be/v1v_OCrUIfU  Again the same guitar.

John Miles Vocalist for Jimmy Page on the Outrider tour in 1988.
youtu.be/5lWjo9lP6xI

 FOR THE RECORD.
I am not a guitar dealer and I only acquired this guitar because I love the music of John Miles (and others of course) and I believe him to be one of the world’s finest guitarists.

 OK THE FACTS:

When I first put it up for sale a plethora of people came to view to buy it. They were all dealers one offered me as little as £2,000 and told me that’s all it was worth. However some of them really seemed to  know  their stuff , and some of those, thought the neck and serial number was original and genuine. Some of them believed the body was that of a 1957 gold top which had been re-veneered by Dick Knight with a tiger flame, burst finish which is what everyone wanted in the 1960s.and 70s. I now really don’t know the true beginnings of the guitar. Everyone had a different opinion, but I do believe it’s a 50’s guitar. Someone even used my L.P photo and listed it themselves with a provenance I have never even seen before.

 I was told that there are workshops all over the US, China and elsewhere knocking out fake copies, some, almost impossible to detect.

It would be good if people worldwide with old Les Paul guitars would list and log their serial number with a photo on a forum somewhere. Wow, that could really start something !  Unscrupulous dealers won’t like that. Nor will people with a stolen guitar. I guess many would be scared to admit to buying a fake although they would probably, I hope, have recourse for a refund.  I guess ultimately it is the provenance for the guitar that is really paramount to its value.

I also believe that  if someone changes the machine heads for superior quality ones, it can only make it a better guitar, right ?  All the nonsense about, its not the original solder or toggle switch or connecting wire I believe is for the money maker Cartels that operate and collude. Much like, I believe the way some auction houses operate.

I have been reliably told by a classical musician “wood expert” that the type of tree and the part of the tree used, and the shrinkage of the wood cells, over time will make 59 Les Pauls  all sound different, much like the wood used on say a Stradivarius violin. The wood and craftsmanship being a major contribution to the sound.  Why doesn't anybody ever mention the wood?  A short bit of wire from the pickup inside, a resistor, or a plastic pick-up surround won’t make any difference to the sound. Strange isn't it ?  It’s the wood of the body, the neck and the pickups where the major sound is created. Not to mention the player. I think it true to say that if the wood is selected  from the correct part of the tree, not kiln dried, but stored and dried naturally, the instrument will sound sweeter with age and bearing in mind the metal bridge on the guitar connects to the wood body of the guitar, thus giving the guitar its resonance and sound.This is translated by the pick-ups for amplification. Some pick-ups sound better than others I guess. Good ears and the love of music will always identify this, but I am no guitar expert, just a careful listener of music.

 “Me”, I now don’t care if nobody buys this guitar, I will keep it. I have had so much agg, but I can say with certainty  that Mr Miles  bought and owned this guitar sometime in 1975 and it was with him and he recorded with it until 2008. I have owned it ever since. I love the fact it is well used, maintained and a Players guitar and not a pristine L.P guitar for a glass cabinet. That ain't Rock and Roll, right ?

 After all the guff I hear on the net from dealers and some of the guess-work from couch experts, I prefer to sell this guitar to a musician who can come to view with his own Gibson expert, to examine and appraise the guitar. I am sick of dealers wasting my time. Some are like vultures.

 Treating a  Les Paul as a bank investment is like putting a Michael Angelo painting in a vault for no one to see. I believe beautiful sounding instruments should be played regularly by competent musicians and not wasted in a cupboard or to play just a few chords on, or indeed for “showing off”. I also personally think they are not a very good investment any more, unless they have impeccable provenance.

 SO,  I am sorry if I may have made any incorrect assumptions.

 As for Johns guitar, I wonder now who can truly value it. I certainly can’t and I don't feel I can trust anybody any more. Can you blame me.

                                                   That said and above all.        Music will always be my first love.

Question & Answers from before Answered On
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I think if it was my guitar, and I wanted to sell it, and because it is not a cheap guitar, I would put extra work in to authenticate its history. As you are well aware of, letters can be faked, and by due respect buyers are going by your word. John Miles is still alive, I would try my best to contact him, which is most certainly doable, and to have this guitar, I'm sure he'd respond, no doubt. Find out more about it from reputable experts. I would even contact Gibson, visit the states, etc. But that's me. Would be an interesting project indeed! I guess this is all dependant on how much you want to sell it, etc. I wish you luck.
27-Mar-16
  Thank you that's very kind of you. I have two letters, one from John and one from his management. I will get them updated and try to work on Gibson. Best wishes Diana
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almost certainly a fake seriel number. This is a 68 model not a 59 and has been up for sale before 26-Mar-16
  Thanks but its not a 68. The letter which was put up on the net did not come with this guitar. Please go back and do your own detective work, don't just follow others. Best wishes and thank you.
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Hi, There seems to be quite the mystery on this serial number: pic/category/1234 Probably a good idea to find out for sure if what you have is what it is supposed to be. Best regards.
26-Mar-16
Thank you. Will update every one soon.
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26-Mar-16
Thank you, I did take a look. It is the same guitar, I first put it up years ago the photo's were bad, these new ones are much better. The letter in the video must be for another guitar nothing to do with this one. I was told it was a 1957 from another eBayer and to take it off ebay as it had the same serial number as another guitar which a dealer was about to sell. All the best.
 

forums/ebay-deals/109798-gibson-les-paul-standard-guitar-1957-john-miles-owned.html Scroll down, pictures look similar to this item; wear on the headstock back, black stop bar posts. 26-Mar-16
  Yes they are my old photo's, its the same guitar but the letter isn't mine, that must be with a different Les Paul, who ever put it up, mixed them up. I listed this guitar years back and put up the serial number for all to view, which upset some dealers. One called and asked me to take it down as it may spoil the sale of another Les Paul with the same serial number. He said mine was a 1957 without viewing it, I can see now that the other guitar has a lot of problems. Shorty I will update the current situation with an overview. Thanks for your interest.
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Hi there, I'm interested. The serial number on that guitar indicates it was the last 59 Les Paul that was ever produced and would make it rather unique. Has this guitar ever been authenticated by Gruhn ?. Kind Regards Ben.
 
Interesting. Thanks.
Not by Gruhn, I believe they are in the US, I may take a trip to see them later this year, I can see they are the best.